For those of you who are fresh from the Calvary Chapel meat grinder, I thought I’d give you a peak under the hood of how the Calvary Chapel System and Moses Model Culture of Little to No Accountability works.
I know that you “think” Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa have your back…that they care about you and that they have your best interest at heart. Surely they follow Scripture, I mean they “Teach the Bible Simply” and all. Surely if there’s a problem with one of the “pastors” who flies their Dove Logo…a “pastor” who is “affiliated” with Chuck Smith and CCCM and 1,200 other Calvary Chapel pastors…surely there’s recourse if your particular Calvary Chapel pastor doesn’t play by the rules and hurts you.
Hate to break it to you (and some of you are finding out the hard way)…there is no Santa Claus. I know, take a deep breath, it’ll pass. “Papa Chuck” could give a flying you-know-what. He’s busy with Prophecy Conferences, the Farewell Praise Chuck Tour and gobbling up lucrative multi-million dollar Radio Stations (that his heirs solely control) to care too much about your pee-on (intentional misspelling) trifles. Brian Brodersen, the error apparent? Good luck. How about CCOFu and Roger Wing/David Rosales? (Calvary Chapel Office of F…you get the idea). They won’t help you.
The “System” is set up the way it is…intentionally. It’s there to protect Chuck’s ass-ets. It is there to give an “appearance” of Accountability and an appearance of Spiritual Obedience…but it’s a bait and switch. The Truth is, with Responsibility comes liability…and Papa Chuck don’t play that game. It’s unProphetable (but not Prophecy Conferences…those, now those are Prophetable! Books and Videos, very Prophetable! Radio Stations? Are you kidding me? SUPER PROPHETABLE!)
My situation in a very concise nut-shell: I and my brothers suffered intense physical abuse at the hands of Calvary Chapel Pastor
Bob Grenier…real bad. Hit, kicked, shoved, grabbed violently, full-force open handed hits to the face, struck with objects, bruises, blood, brother locked in a small closet, etc etc etc too many instances to count…over a period of many many years. It sucked, still does. My brother Paul, Bob’s blood son (I’m a step-son) alleges both physical abuse and sexual abuse (Paul is homosexual). My mom was abused (my bro Geoff, also a step-son saw Bob smacking my mom around, Paul saw Bob on top of her, choking her, I witnessed too many instances to count of Bob intimidating her by breaking objects, screaming at her, taking her to the back bedroom, locking the door, yelling at her, noises, her in tears etc etc etc…and we all know that “Wives are to submit to their husbands” and not go against God Himself…or so Bob’s manipulation and twisting of Scripture goes).
Stuff happened. I got older. More stuff happened, Bob was still being a prick to our family…I decided to stand up to him and confronted the abuses privately…in our family unit. Bob freaked. I thought the rules of the Bible taught “simply” applied. I tried Matthew 18. No go. I went to Bob’s two main Elders. No go, “don’t harm the church. leave it to the Lord, NOTHING can be done, it’s in the past, go your way and pray about it, etc etc etc”. Bought that line of bull, prayed for four years. My wife found a blog where others were speaking out about how Bob was spiritually abusing them and being his normal douche self. I read the stories, felt their pain…and felt God said to do something. I did.
I participated in the blog, shared some stuff…shared some more stuff. People came out of the woodwork sharing their stories…all still very much negatively affected by Calvary Chapel Pastor in good standing, Bob Grenier. No closure, no resolution, no Matthew 18 for any of them. No attempt at reconciliation by Bob or Calvary Chapel…just “get the heck out of here you evildoer and don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split ya!” Some “Be the Servant of All”…some “Seek Justice, do Mercy and walk humbly with your God”…some “Leave the 99 to save the 1″…some “we teach the Bible simply”. Total bull.
After the blog blew up (exploded with participation) I contacted Bob’s Board to confront the abuses (and now a bunch more I was freshly aware of…including financial, spiritual, bullying, etc etc etc from former staff, former assistant pastors, bookkeepers, long-time lay people, etc etc). I found out Bob had a “Local Board” and an “Out-of-town Celebrity CC Pastor Board”.
The Celeb Board are Board Members none-the-less, but they sure got all wish-washy about how much they really did when push came to shove…talking to Gary Ruff, pastor of Calvary Chapel Foothills / Calvary Chapel Sun Valley was like talking to Bill Clinton and parsing the word “is”.
I communicated with Bob’s “Board” and Elders (and assistant pastors for that matter). I reported the abuses. i requested a hearing…our day in Spiritual Court per Matthew 18 and 1 Timothy 5:19-21. Certainly they’d want to know and act if the Bishop was not meeting the Qualifications taught “simply” in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1…especially when the Bishop is an Overseer and children are part of that oversight…right? Wrong.
Stone frickin’ Wall. That’s the Calvary Chapel “way”.
I communicated the abuses to Roger Wing and CCOF as well. Nada.
I communicated the abuses to Chuck Smith and Brian Brodersen of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa. Nada.
I communicated the abuses to Raul Ries Calvary Chapel Golden Springs, a Board Member of Bob Grenier’s. Nada.
I communicated the abuses to David Rosales Calvary Chapel Chino Valley. Nada.
This was around a year-and-a-half ago.
I’ve been all over the internet blaring the horn. The story has been in the Fresno Bee, Visalia Times-Delta, The OC Weekly, the Daily Kos, on Phoenix Preacher dot net, all over Facebook…and many other places. You’d think someone would take notice within Calvary Chapel and follow Scripture and take some action. Nope.
Well, I recently (finally) heard back from David Rosales…he’s such a man of God and so full of integrity…I read his blog, so I know that to be a fact…he says so himself, many times over. So, Rosales, this stalwart of the Christian Faith, FINALLY responds to a correspondence of mine….and his response? You decide:
Me (addressed to his highness the holy right reverend anointed fellow Chuck Smith Prophet David Rosales of the purely independent yet affiliated and using the same image and likeness and name Calvary Chapel Chino Valley who is also on Bob’s Board as an Elder):
You need to take a stand and do something David, you are on Bob’s Board and on CCOF, are you not?
Do you really believe that we’re all lying? Paul, Geoff and Me? Do you think my Aunt and Uncle are lying, a mountain of Bob’s former staff, associate pastors and long-time lay-people?
Gary Ruff saw Bob tuning Geoff up in the hotel hallway in the Philippines in 1985. Gary talked with Geoff at length about it and Geoff told Gary then about some of the abuse going on in the home. Are you calling Geoff a liar?
It makes me want to vomit to read your blog about “integrity” and holiness. You will not take a stand for what’s right and you have the power to do so.
Here’s Pastor David Rosales’s response (followed quickly by my being blocked…the Cyber Stone Wall, nice!):
April 13 David Rosales:
I am amazed that you are doing this, so my answer will be brief. [About the only time you’re brief…I’ve listened to you and read your stuff.]
No, I am not on Bob’s board. [When did that happen? That’s news to me and many others. You were the last time I talked to Gary Ruff and the last time another Calvary Chapel Pastor called to find out who was officially on the Board at Calvary Chapel Visalia].
As for what I believe, that is not any thing you need to be concerned with Alex. [Actually, it does concern me, since you are a fellow Calvary Chapel Bishop and Elder and charged with a Scriptural Responsibility here: 1 Timothy 5:19-21 …but, I know, that’s just Scripture…and it’s to be taught “simply”…but there’s some LONG complicated parsing and explanation of why that isn’t your responsibility.]
What you are doing is so wrong that I won’t take the time to answer you any further, except to encourage you to seek help as soon as you can. I fear for your mental state, and pray you do not do any more damage to anyone else. [So, basically I’m mental and I’m the bad guy…even though your fellow Bishop Bob is the one who claims to “see demons in people” and beats his wife and kids and “his” sheep at church…and lies about it…is delusional…thinks he’s a Prophet, etc etc…but I’m the crazy one, thanks. And, about the “wrong” part…”Tell it unto the Church…the Greek there is Ekklessia, look it up. It includes the local church and the Church Universal…no distinction. Read a book besides one of Chuck’s, it’ll help you.]
You don’t know me, and I really don’t know you but I can say that if this is typical of what you do, may the Lord help you to heal, you really are in need and obviously are deeply hurting. [I don’t know you? You express your beliefs all the time in the OC Register, on your blog and from your Pulpit…en masse. I don’t “know” anything about you? Gee, you must be lying then about the mountains and mountains of stuff you have been professing and publishing for many many years. I must have the wrong David Rosales, my bad. And, you know what would REALLY help me to heal? Hows about you and your CC Buddies follow Scripture and deal with this situation…that would be great, thanks.]
Now remember, David Rosales is also part of CCOF…that “appearance of Accountability” Office that bears the Calvary Chapel name…but is really there to provide cover for the offending pastors…not to help you.
There’s your brief glimpse under the hood and behind the Calvary Chapel curtain (or should I say Stone Wall).
I am so blessed! Thank you Calvary Chapel and David Rosales!