http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1GZzucDMlQ

I don’t see in Scripture where pastors who fall in adultery should be restored back to the ministry as a pastor. They are called to be above reproach. This is where I differ from Calvary Chapel general practice and that of a consensus of Evangelical disciplines. But I believe there is opportunity to serve the Lord in other capacities that may even prove more fruitful than a prior ministry as a pastor of a mega church. For example, Jim Bakker.

I have a card above my desk that says: Is is true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? Is it helpful? It helps me remember to keep my focus…and believe me I need all the reminders I can get!

Oh boy, that link. The good ol’ days.

I should’ve been around in August 2012… hmmm… don’t know how all that drama escaped me. Or I didn’t care, as I had no idea who half those people were (daresay I am none the wiser for knowing who they are today).

As for the original article, Alex did a good job and he does push a lot of buttons and is able to draw a lot of comments. I have to admit, I usually agree with Alex’s POV. My biggest criticism against Chuck Smith is what he writes about in that article.

As for the rest of the comments… whatever. I think MLD is banned, so we don’t have to worry about him. And I rarely see those PxP commenters here. It is a different place from those wild, wild, west days.

BTW: MLD is being paranoid, I easily found him via Facebook by just knowing his first name is Gene (as shown when you click on his icon) and I knew he lived somewhere in OC, near Saddleback Church. He needs to work a lot harder being anonymous, or he needs to stop crying about it.

http://calvarychapelabuse.com/wordpress/chuck-smith-and-calvary-chapel-saying-nothing-is-saying-something-taking-no-action-is-taking-action/

You can listen here (starts at the 11 min mark):

Quoted from Lighthouse Trails blog

From the Lighthouse: Chuck is not being completely accurate when he says that each Calvary Chapel is independent and “on it’s own completely.” If that were the case, then why did his son get ousted for being emerging? And why are there Calvary Distinctives and Calvary Position papers? Like virtually every organization that exists, Calvary Chapel has guidelines and boundaries; otherwise, an organization couldn’t call itself a distinct group, and it would be a free for all. When the whole emergent thing came up seven years ago, Chuck made it very clear that any church that wanted to go in that direction should best remove their Calvary Chapel name from their title. So it is not accurate to say that CC churches are on their own completely and can basically do whatever they want.
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=11644

I do not believe the average CC parishioner knows that the church they attend is completely independent, only their pastor is affiliated; they believe they are part of an organization but are ostensibly only part of the particular pastor’s church.

Why don’t they know this?

I know I’ve played the victim card before and pranced around in my own self-righteousness.

I look at PxP and the bitterness and hatred has made that place a foul, smelly pit. It’s kinda sad that outside of PxP, these people may be Christians, probably leaders in the church, but anger and pride has seeped in and made the place a dunghole.

I hope that never happens to CCA. It’s not wrong to speak about abuse, but I hope we never use that as an excuse to hate. I hope love perpetuates above all things. I hope we come together to fellowship in love.

Peace.

Agree! 100%!!!

It’s because of people like J Parks that this blog needs to stay alive.

How many people that leave a corrupt church get exactly the response that J Parks gave? I’ll eyeball it at 50%, that’s what happened to me, 50% of the people I knew and fellowshipped with gave me the stern left boot and ignored all my complaints against the church.

What J Parks forgot to mention is that if the Pastor/leadership/church does not repent, then we are to rebuke publically and not even eat with them. We are to treat them as outsiders. How many Christians do that today? No wonder so many celebrity Pastors think its okay to act immorally and fleece the flock. Why not? The sheep are deaf and dumb, and if one steps out of line, he’ll just spew some passages completely out of context and alienate the one that had any courage to say anything.