Aug 242011
 

Chuck Smith mugs for the cameras at Calvary Chapel Visalia with accused Child Molester and Child Abuser Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel Visalia, after Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa was notified of the abuse allegations made by three of Bob Grenier's sons and corroborated by an Aunt in an interview with a police detective for a report filed in 2009. Unfortunately the statute of limitations had run out and no arrest was made. However, Calvary Chapel is well aware of many allegations over 30 years of abuse and corruption by Grenier and still endorses him fully...which is indicative of how Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel shuns accountability and protects Calvary Chapel Pastors, while ignoring Victims and whistle-blowers.

​Gustavo Arellano/OC Weekly

Everyone knows about the Catholic Diocese of Orange and its pedophile-protecting ways (got another bombshell in the cannon–I’m warning you, Brownie), but Orange County’s other Christian yahoo network has had its kiddie-diddling scandals as well–except Calvary Chapel does a much-better job hiding its tracks, signing settlements that remain under seal. I should get to exposing those, and will after I finish a couple of projects, but nice to see others aren’t waiting.

In a blockbuster case filed August 9 in Idaho’s First Judicial District Court, four men allege various Calvary Chapel pastors knew they had a pedophile on their hands when they allowed Anthony Iglesias to continue working for the ministry at their North Country Chapel branch in Idaho, where he abused the men when they were boys. The lawsuit claims that not only did Iglesias get collared for molesting a boy while serving as a youth minister atCalvary Chapel Golden Springs in Diamond Bar, but that his bosses allowed him to go off to Idaho and allowed him to return to Idaho after molesting boys on a Thailand missionary trip. 

Paging Bishop Brownie…


The lawsuit, filed by an Idaho law firm but featuring the muscle of Washington lawyer Tim Kosnoff (whose tenacity in going against pedo-protectors of all denominations was just told in a book by my publishing company, Scribner–just found that out while Googling!) combines two separate lawsuits filed against Calvary Chapel accusing them of harboring Iglesias. This one names the Big Calvary in the suit: Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, which is actually in SanTana, and accuses them and North Country Calvary pastor Robert Davis of “negligently, recklessly and/or fraudulently conceal[ing] from the general public, law enforcement, its parishioners, plaintiffs and their parents its knowledge that Iglesias was and is a pedophile, child predator, and child molester.” Kosnoff isn’t asking for much–$10,000 per client, because that’s all that Idaho allows in such cases (a direct byproduct of Brownie’s Idaho days, no doubt) but will try to ask for punitive damages at a later date and is asking for a jury trial.

Iglesias is currently in jail for molesting two other boys in 2003. What did Calvary Chapel founder-head Chuck Smith know about child molesters within his flock, and when?

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/08/lawsuit_claims_calvary_chapel.php

 Posted by at 7:06 pm

  34 Responses to “OC Weekly covers the Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa child sex abuse lawsuit”

  1. Nice article!

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  3. If what you say is true Alex, that picture must be really nauseating for you. If Chuck hasn’t already, I think it would be a good idea for him to look into your story before he continues to support this man. Some people are so good at deceiving other people. Their private faces are completely different than their public faces. I have someone in my life at the moment who is this way, and I would never have believed the allegations made against this person I know, if I hadn’t been around their private life enough lately to see it. I was shocked to find out how “different” they are when home with their family. It has taught me a big lesson on deception. When one person makes an allegation, it’s one thing, but when more than one are making it, I think its time to look into what is going on. I hope and will pray that Chuck Smith looks into this problem and will stay open to see what the truth is. I know I was really fooled so I know how it can happen like it happened to me. It’s too bad there wasn’t a maid or someone like that in the background who was aware of what happened and could be a witness for you. In my situation a maid was there and totally aware of what was going on.I don’t personally know you Alex but if what you say is true, I really hope the truth comes out on this. It is so horrible how people get away with their deceptions and lies and the victims get “blasted” for speaking out and standing for the truth.

  4. Sue,

    What you see here is only the tip of the iceberg. I can vouch for Alex’s honesty. He is tenacious because this all really happened, and he has enough sweeping knowledge to confirm in his own mind that this is not surreal but the cool hard reality. Pray for him and the many others who are under the surface of this crisis. They are seeking God’s guidance as to how to proceed. In the past two years, the hints about what may transpire has happened just as predicted. This story is only going to get bigger. Most people will not believe what they see and hear. Cling to Jesus with an iron grip because there may be some shaking in the near future.

  5. There is also the Allegation of Smith’s involvement in wiretapping at the Logos Building…Just ask Roger Wing or Ed Cornwall to confirm… The cover up gave David Hocking clemency through CCCM and a permanent prime spot on KWAVE .. Can anyone say,”CalvaryGate”

  6. Asking Roger Wing to confirm? Haha…….

  7. my prayer is this case will bring Pastor’s Raul Ries and Dale Goddard to account for their very liberal use of church funds, the personal and spiritual abuse of staff members and others within CC Diamond Bar, the allegation of marital infidelity and the ongoing cover-up of CC Senior Pastors sins.

    If anyone believes Raul will ‘step-down’ you are CRAZY!

    You don’t hand over an empire and lifestyle that easily. I don’t care who the accusers are, or who represents them…

  8. Once A CC Guru, I’ll add that one to the list. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they did that kind of stuff. It pales in comparison to other stuff I’ve learned of, but is still a serious allegation none-the-less.

    WA, LOL. Ya, Roger Wing is neck deep in all kinds of stuff and I’m sure he’ll be open and honest and forthright when deposed as that is the “Christian” thing to do….not. I’m sure Roger will clam up and/or lie his you-know-what off. However, some things he won’t be able to cover up.

    PJay, you’re prolly right, but if the allegations (any of them) are proven true regarding Raul, people in the church and at CC should call for his resignation whether he resigns or not. From some of the stuff I’ve learned about…he’s lucky he hasn’t graced a jail cell.

  9. Alex, I believe PJay is right – Raul will never step down, and no one there will have the courage to call him out. And, if needs be, Raul will pay these guys off (it’s only $10,000 each, right?) with the stipulation that this goes away quietly. This will then go away quietly (except from here). But I am a negative Nelly.

  10. Ron, the deal with the $10,000 is not what it looks like.

    There is a provision in Idaho State Law that makes the Victims jump through that hoop first. Gustavo Arellano in the OC Weekly alludes to that legislation that was pushed by a Catholic authority in Idaho to make the bar a little higher for Victims of child sex abuse.

    The real end-game is a Jury Trial in Idaho and a Jury handing down a judgment that should be much much larger than the $10K per.

    I hope this goes to trial and I hope CC doesn’t settle and fights it.

    It is doubtful Raul will be truthful about his wrongdoings and doubtful he takes responsibility for his actions and misdeeds, that would take character and ultimate trust in the Lord…and nothing about him tells me he is that guy anymore. And, yes, nearly impossible he would voluntarily step down.

    Raul is a shadow of the man in his movie who first found Jesus (or Jesus found him). It’s sad.

  11. Question: Was Raul put into ministry as a novice? Did he meet the qualifications to be an elder at the time?

    There’s a reason why God tells us in the scriptures not to put novices into the ministry and why there is a list of qualifications one must meet. Observation tells us that pride takes over and alters men who started out with good intentions.

  12. Grateful, I know for sure Bob Grenier was rushed in, Bob says so in his own words in his book “A Common Miracle”…he was a drug dealer / drug smuggler (self-professed) one day…and a Calvary Chapel Pastor the next.

    I think Raul Ries has a similar story. I think it was a pretty quick transition from thug to Calvary Chapel Pastor.

  13. Alex, do you know if the case would hinge on all three being guilty – or will the jury be able to separate? Or, is that different from case to case? I think the stuff on Bob Davis won’t stick. Possibly on CCCM and Raul, though, from what I read in the document.

  14. I Timothy 3:6 (Pick your translation … what part of “he must not be a recent convert…” does CC not understand?

    New International Version (©1984)
    He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

    New Living Translation (©2007)
    An elder must not be a new believer, because he might become proud, and the devil would cause him to fall.

    English Standard Version (©2001)
    He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil.

    International Standard Version (©2008)
    He must not be a recent convert, so that he won’t become arrogant and fall into the devil’s condemnation.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
    He must not be a new Christian, or he might become arrogant like the devil and be condemned.

    King James Bible
    Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    American King James Version
    Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    American Standard Version
    not a novice, lest being puffed up he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    Bible in Basic English
    Not one newly taken into the church, for fear that, through his high opinion of himself, he may come into the same sin as the Evil One.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    Not a neophyte: lest being puffed up with pride, he fall into the judgment of the devil.

    Darby Bible Translation
    not a novice, that he may not, being inflated, fall into the fault of the devil.

    English Revised Version
    not a novice, lest being puffed up he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    Webster’s Bible Translation
    Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    Weymouth New Testament
    He ought not to be a new convert, for fear he should be blinded with pride and come under the same condemnation as the Devil.

    World English Bible
    not a new convert, lest being puffed up he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.

    Young’s Literal Translation
    not a new convert, lest having been puffed up he may fall to a judgment of the devil;

  15. Alex-I noticed on LHT that they have a link for another case involving youth Pastor Michael Louis Anthony from CC Longview.

    Have you ever posted this case? I don’t recall it.

  16. Alex,
    Okay, i don’t have much money but I will place $100.00 into a pot that says the following will happen. You can determine the odds (or, don’t since gambling is not legal!).

    Guide one is the general liability insurer for CCCM and CCGS (Raul’s Church). Guide One will be handing out $100,000.00 for CCCM ($10,000) will be CCCM’s part and Guide One will hand out $75,000.00 for CCGS ($10,000) will be CCGS’s part. The $10k is their deductible.

    The case will be settled and apart from this blog the story will go quietly into the past.

  17. Hannah, thanks, I’ll post that one, too.

    Ron, it doesn’t hinge on all three…one, two, three or none could be found liable.

  18. Pjay, entirely possible and I’m sure the odds are in your favor.

    However, there is a possibility the victims don’t settle.

    And, it’s a catch-22 if CCCM settles. If they do, it shows they believe there’s a good chance Agency can be proven in court….and it will invite many more lawsuits.

    If CCCM fights it, they risk losing a huge Jury Trial and they risk all their dirty laundry coming out in open court and depositions.

  19. from past experiences i have seen CCCM settle without all the board members knowing the insurance carrier actually settled.

    Yep. that’s how bad the CCCM board handles ‘the stuff.’

  20. On another note,
    if this gets close to going to trial then the person to watch will be Dale Goddard. Raul will sell him out faster than you can imagine. He’s done it with many others before.

  21. PJay-“The case will be settled and apart from this blog the story will go quietly into the past.”

    Isn’t the biblical model for the sinner to go before the church and their sin exposed ?
    I think of the movie “Philadelphia”..you know how Denzel says “Explain it to me like I’m a 4 yr old” (or whatever age he said)

    Maybe I am just too naive.
    Is there a biblical model to follow that they are avoiding with pay-offs?

  22. Sorry…above is Calvary chapel church..not Calvary chapel.
    You can delete my posts on this.

  23. OK It IS a Calvary Chapel and is listed in the directory.

  24. Oh Hannah,
    your naivety is priceless. I will answer your question simply and then provide a few queries for your consideration:
    Answer: They are not following a biblical model. if anyone has served at CC Golden Springs then you are very familiar with the 6 month rule. it’s their rule…

    1) CC boast of being a N.T. church. They try to practice active evangelism as a NT Church. Yet, their leadership structure (which they boast about) is an OT model. Think on that.

    2) CC boast of being a Biblical church that rightly divides the Word of God. Yet, they hide all aspects of their organization (board, assets, financial operations, etc…). So, they open their Bibles to teach on Sunday mornings, evenings and Wednesday Evenings and they close their offices and books all the other days. Think on that.

  25. Pjay…you are very in the know. This is going to be a massive story no matter the outcome of this suit. CCCM will be greatly damaged.

    I don’t know the extent of Alex’s sources but I imagine they are widespread and substantial. This is snowballing now at a very fast rate.

  26. Pjay…the financial secrecy bothered me the most. I never got the right hinny boot of fellowship…just split as fast as I could after reading all the past Board Minutes and the current Year End Budget. It was a one man show, and it answered a lot of my questions about the leadership.

  27. Pjay: You hit it on the head about Raul selling out Dale. That will absolutely happen!

  28. OT,
    I’m certain you know the many stories of his best friends being thrown under the bus for his betterment.

  29. Calvary Chapel pastors hide behind the ‘Moses Model’ which has many unBiblical aspects. They believe pastors are ‘only accountable to God Himself’, instead of other believers. Where is the accountability for sin and/or false teachings?

    I have in writing, from a lady (teacher) at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, whose husband has been a pastor, that we are to judge nobody (even believers).

    So, if they don’t believe in judging believers’ sins and teachings within the church, doesn’t that mean they are a cult? Because this weird notion is very unBiblical. The Apostle Paul judged those in the church who were sinning or teaching falsely. Was he sinning? Perhaps there were ‘whistle blowers’ in this situation, but maybe they were shown the door! The very rule of the Moses Model is just one big cover up in my opinion! If you don’t like how we run things, well then, bye bye. This might be why there are lawsuits against Calvary Chapels, they often won’t hold each other accountable. This is far from true Christianity.

    A person who exposes error (false teaching) and/or sin at (many, if not all) Calvary Chapels, will likely be labeled a ‘gossiper’ or a ‘slanderer’ or a ‘divisive person’ – and will be shunned. This is projection; they often make the people that speak up feel like they are horrible and condemned. It is spiritual abuse.

    Beware the Spirit of Elitism and the Spirit of Error in churches.

    In my opinion, saying that believers are not to hold pastors or each other accountable or judge sin and false teachings in the church……. is a destructive heresy. It goes against everything the Bible stands for, it goes against ‘sound doctrine’.

    2 Peter 2:1 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction”.

  30. Anonymous,

    By pasting that site, are you implying that Church Smith knowingly is using, and has started his church with a occult symbol thus supporting the occult?

  31. Church=chuck… Ironically,I always make that mistake!

  32. So, What’s the latest on this story, It’s been over a month and I’ve not seen any updates out of OC weekly. today’s date 10-5-11

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